Both Quercus

Quercus garryana vs Quercus lobata

These two are not on this page because a keyword tool suggested them. They are here because our own identification model genuinely mistook one for the other, on real photographs, 3 times. We publish the rate, and then we tell you what actually separates them.

Confused 3x by our model Same genus Quercus Method published

Side by sidefigs. a and b

How often our model gets it wrong measured, not estimated

When the plant was The model said How often
Quercus garryana Quercus lobata 3 of 20 (15%)

The confusion runs one way only. The model mistakes Quercus garryana for Quercus lobata, but not the reverse.

Measured on 38,299 openly licensed, research-grade photographs. Full method and dataset.

What actually separates themon the record

Family Both Fagaceae. The family does not separate them.
Genus Both Quercus. Congeners, which is why this is hard.
Flowering Peaks in May versus March. If the plant is in flower, timing helps. (n = 317 and 312.)

What we do not have yet: the diagnostic morphological character that a botanist would key on, from a source we can cite. We are not going to invent one. Until we have it, this page tells you the two are genuinely confusable, how often, and what the taxonomy and the flowering data do and do not settle.

Both recordsfull pages