Both Pinus

Pinus lambertiana vs Pinus monticola

These two are not on this page because a keyword tool suggested them. They are here because our own identification model genuinely mistook one for the other, on real photographs, 5 times. We publish the rate, and then we tell you what actually separates them.

Confused 5x by our model Same genus Pinus Method published

Side by sidefigs. a and b

Pinus lambertiana, photographed by Max Mirel
fig. a Max Mirel, CC0 1.0

Pinus lambertiana

sugar pine
Pinus monticola, photographed by Josiah Londerée
fig. b Josiah Londerée, CC BY 4.0

Pinus monticola

western white pine

How often our model gets it wrong measured, not estimated

When the plant was The model said How often
Pinus lambertiana Pinus monticola 2 of 19 (11%)
Pinus monticola Pinus lambertiana 3 of 20 (15%)

The confusion is asymmetric, which is common and usually informative: it means one of these has a character the other lacks, rather than the two simply looking alike.

Measured on 38,949 openly licensed, research-grade photographs. Full method and dataset.

What actually separates themon the record

Family Both Pinaceae. The family does not separate them.
Genus Both Pinus. Congeners, which is why this is hard.

What we do not have yet: the diagnostic morphological character that a botanist would key on, from a source we can cite. We are not going to invent one. Until we have it, this page tells you the two are genuinely confusable, how often, and what the taxonomy and the flowering data do and do not settle.

Both recordsfull pages